Stop Making Bad Logos

Stop Making Bad Logos

There’s article after article on websites that talk bout how to make a great logo. But If you’re a logo machine, and you’ve been doing it for a long time, chances are that you’ve developed some pretty awful habits. How do I know this? Because I suffered from some of the same habits I’m about to talk about. A true master of logo creation will refine their work on every project, forcing themselves to get better with each design. It all boils down to a few key things to avoid when you’re creating a logo. While you can take a stab at selling generic logos on places like GraphicRiver, you’ll do your best work when you deeply understand your clients and their company. Now lets dive into the ways you can stop making bad logos.

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Throw Out Extreme Detail and Intricacy

While some of the best designers and illustrators often find themselves wanting to flex their illustrative muscles, and express the insane levels of detail they’re capable of producing, this often makes for terrible logos. Don’t forget to realize that your logo is going to show up in a lot of places at a lot of sizes. No one can see your pen and ink stippling from a thousand feet away. Don’t worry though, even some of the most simple logos that exist today once went through a difficult dry spell. If you found yourself creating complex logos in the past or even are creating one now don’t kick yourself just keep chopping away elements until you’re left with the true soul of the logo.

Take a look at these examples of the old and new Nike and Apple Logos. Two logos revered to be extremely simple now, once went through a complex stage.

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If I was Isaac Newton, I’d Sue.


Never Use Other Peoples Stuff

It doesn’t matter how? Another person’s work shouldn’t ever end up in one of your logos. First it should be a point of pride that the entire piece of work was created by you from scratch. Design can be an incredibly noble profession, and our ability to come up with something that defines a company in the form of an image is incredibly powerful. Now, do you want that image to be from iStock.com?

On top of all of this the fact that if a client was paying you, they would feel cheated and be absolutely furious if they discovered that their logo comprised of elements that they simply could’ve found on the Internet.

Even if you’re running the da Vinci Art Museum, you shouldn’t be putting the Mona Lisa in your logo. If the logo is for a company or theme that’s derivative of another person, place or object, spend time trying to come up with something that represents that person, work place or object, not make the literal copy of it. You’ll have a happier client, and be able to share the pride that you created it yourself.


Please Don’t Make it in Photoshop

I’ve said this 1000 times, but it bears repeating. Do not make a logo in Adobe Photoshop. Period. When I began to study Graphics, I approached my teacher Mr. Adie and proudly declared that I was a master at Photoshop. Know what he said to me? “Teenage Girls use Photoshop to cover up Acne! If you want to impress me, master Illustrator.” Now, I’m not saying that a teenage girl can’t create a great logo. But, what I am saying is if you are a true designer, your logo will be created in a vector art program like Adobe Illustrator.

Photoshop is simply a photo editing tool. That’s what it was originally designed to do. It doesn’t create art that’s ready to print on the business card, a T-shirt or any other item. So, the bottom line? Keep your Evelyn and Bas filter and bubble textures off of my logo.

Sincerely, your client.


Don’t Just Put a Thing Next to Text

You may be up in arms about this one, but hear me out. I know there’s probably 1 million logos out there that are simply a thing sitting right next to a piece of text. But there’s more to it than that. If you have a symbol that represents the company, do you need the company name at all? If I showed you a blue app on sale would you be able to tell me it’s Facebook? Some of the world’s most timeless logos are ones that don’t incorporate an image at all. FedEx, The GAP, Microsoft (until recently LINK), Google, and the list goes on.

The real thing I’m trying to get to here is, don’t paint yourself into basic patterns. Exercise your muscles every single time you create a logo. Do something different than you did last time, and the time before that. You’ll find it makes you a far better logo creator, and a more versatile designer.


Quit With the Overly-complex Metaphors

Dear client, enclosed in this email is your logo. It’s a Ford model T with the license plate BTSYRSS. That’s because the automotive industry is American, and Betsy Ross was asked by George Washington to sew the first American flag!

Pretty good logo for Joe’s American burgers, right? Although some designers who have a minor in philosophy want to be seen as creative intellectuals by their clients, it’s never a good idea to design an overly complex metaphor.

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I couldn’t make this up if I tried.

A logo needs to tell a story, symbolize a company or an idea. I don’t care that you’ve been studying the works of Stanley Kubrick for the past 12 months, if you have to explain the logo every single time you show it to somebody, then you’re doing it wrong.

Logos are tag clouds, they’re not storybooks, they’re not mission statements, and they’re not decorations. But great logos may be all of those things at once. Simplicity, clarity, and meaning define a great logo. Take the extra effort to refine your idea and like a fine jam, remove the impurities, cut the fat and distill your idea down to the single most meaningful thing that you can think of. (Sounds sweet! – Ed.)


Don’t Throw Type to the Wind

Unless your logo is so bold, meaningful, memorable, and recognized as a symbol, you’re going to need to use type in your logo. Even then, you may want to keep it simple. Too often is text lain slovenly like a deluge of keystrokes with the kerning set to default. Letters, typefaces and all the properties are part of your logo too.

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The Cleveland Browns logo is an orange helmet. I wish I was kidding.

It’s a step beyond just saying no to Comic Sans, it’s spending hours (Or days, or weeks if you have to) handpicking the right font. It’s knowing about how typography works, and understanding the flow of words and the relationship of text size and space. And if you’re venturing into the realm of cliché, just by putting a bold word next to an un-bolder one, switching or alternating colors, you may have lazy typography on your hands.

If your companies really just one word, think of more interesting treatments. What size, shape, Pat can you text follow. What’s the relationship between the words you’re trying to emphasize her de-emphasize, or jam next to each other? Type can make or break your logo.


Stop Being So Darn Unoriginal

This may seem completely obvious, but originality is crucial. People go and create logos, either without checking what other people have done first, or simply developing the first cliché they can think of. Remember, a logo is meant to represent a company. If your logos going to stand the test of time it must be original. That means you’re not going have to re-brand in another two years, because you did something that looks “So 2008“. A logo is more than something to put on a website or business card. A logo is a stamp, a mark of pride, a family crest. Logos should be something that a company says this is us, and no one else.

Take a look at the BMW Logo. You can’t really mistake it for any other automotive company right? Until you take a look at the RAPP MOTOR logo. The Designers at BMW were charged with bringing legitimacy to a new brand, and while their iterations and current look juxtapose in a sea of chrome swirl logos in the car industry, their original design was not much more than a copy cat.

And there you have it. Some simple ideas here but mistakes we too often make when designing a logo. Now go forth and create great stuff. Or, ya know… Better stuff.

  • Chuck

    Great article!

  • http://about.me/sararocks Nindy

    I’m interested with this statement of yours,

    “And if you’re venturing into the realm of cliché, just by putting a bold word next to an un-bolder one, switching or alternating colors, you may have lazy typography on your hands.”

    Frankly, I found so many logos using this method and even, even a well-known brand new bakery in my country use this kinda logo. And trust me, it looks great with all the interior of the shop, the plastic bag and all those packaging stuffs (and don’t forget the bill). I think, what matter here is what represents the company branding. If it works that way, why not?

    Like you said, shape and size are interesting treatments. The designers who used the-bold-and-un-bolder logo might’ve considered about this interesting treatments first, and it seems like that sort of treatments are the right one for the company.

    Anyway, I’m about to start working on a logo and this article is really inspiring. Thank you :))

    • http://www.quintaldesigns.com Ryan Quintal
      Author

      I agree Nindy,

      I just think that it often is the result of someone typing the words without a space and hitting “cmd+b” on half of it. Not paying attention to emphasis, kerning or color to achieve the same effect.

  • DCHI

    Please stop using Papyrus in your logos… :)

    • http://www.quintaldesigns.com Ryan Quintal
      Author

      Here Here.

    • John

      And Comic Sans and Marker Felt.

  • Ben

    This was a great article with lots of inspiring ideas, but the lack of editing made it hard to read. Just as I started to get caught up in an idea, I was disrupted by a spelling or grammar mistake, often ones that made it difficult to understand the idea that the author was trying to portray. I learned some things from this article, but I feel it would have had a greater impact with a better editing job. This isn’t some kid’s blog. Envato is a high class learning platform. But it was a rather good article for me, anyway.

    • http://tinyurl.com/3elsgqj Kate McInnes

      Hi Ben, yeah. Ryan had a crack at using Dictation for mac. Let this be a lesson to everyone about voice recognition ;)

      I’ve edited the weird parts and re-uploaded. I hope you enjoy the new and improved article :D

      • http://bandgarden.com Trevor Price

        This paragraph could still use quite a bit of TLC:

        If your companies really just one word, think of more interesting treatments. What size, shape, Pat can you text follow. What’s the relationship between the words you’re trying to emphasize her de-emphasize, or jam next to each other? Type can make or break your logo.

  • Lock

    I wish you would not have use the nike and apple logos as examples of non-detailed logos, the reason why apple and nike can just exist as simplified shapes is because of decades of branding until they became their current iconic design. Starbucks just recently made the switch and people were all up in arms. I’m all for simplified iconography when designing a logo but to point at nike and apple is disingenuous to the idea, unless you’re a company that millions of people know and have diehard loyalty towards.

    • John

      Well said. I was thinking the same thing.

    • http://twitter.com/drale2k Drazen Mokic

      Exactly what i was thinking. Only mabye 20 Companies in the world can afford to drop the name in the logo and still be recognized worldwide.

  • Travis

    Great information, but….. how about some proof-reading?? It seems like this was dictated through a speech to text engine, and then somebody just hit publish. “logos comprise developments” ???????

    • http://www.quintaldesigns.com Ryan Quintal
      Author

      A demo of dictation in Mountain Lion, lol.

  • Patrick

    “And some of the world’s most timeless logos are ones that don’t incorporate an image at all. FedEx…”

    There is a right-facing arrow intentionally incorporated into the space between the “e” and “x” in FedEx, and some might argue that it is even more complex than adding an illustration. The arrow is not easily visible and takes on almost a subliminal effect. FedEx spent millions of dollars (4 million IIRC) on that branding.

    Wiki: “The FedEx wordmark is notable for containing a hidden right-pointing arrow in the negative space between the “E” and the “X”, which was achieved by designing a proprietary font, based on Univers and Futura, to emphasize the arrow shape.”

    • TUY

      FedEx wordmark is based on Helvetica not Univers or Futura. Wiki is never reliable…

    • JackM

      It’s still a typographic Logo.

      To quote your wiki quote –

      “Right-pointing arrow in the negative space”

      This was achieved through the Type and leading alone – No graphics

      FedEx is a great example of typographic logos that “don’t incorporate an image”

      • http://www.quintaldesigns.com Ryan Quintal
        Author

        It’s just another great example of paying attention to your typography, and letting it do the work for you. Play to the human tendency to anthropomorphize and interpret what we see.

  • erosama

    i don’t think that we can say that photoshop is a teen girls tool , cause illustrator is only a shaping tool & i challenge everyone to make a perfect image with , also if we want to get a perfect design we need to use the both ,& here is an example of professional ads done in photoshop : http://bit.ly/Upop1Q
    PS : i don’t say that your article is bad , it’s sure it’s a perfect article , but i don’t like the photoshop part !

    • http://creativeduck.blogspot.com mikey

      I think you are missing the point on his comment, Photoshop will always be part of our workflow, but Illustrator should always be used for logo designs.

      This article is about logos, not retouching :)

      And to that challenge how’s these?

      Apple: http://tinyurl.com/8vokpjm
      Phone: http://tinyurl.com/8la982r

      • http://www.facebook.com/dalveer10.mann Dalveer Singh Mann

        people there is a pen tool in photoshop and an .eps export feature. I have created a logo in photoshop and then exported it to illustrator. and it worked fine. all vector. but i did it in photoshop because illustrator was feeling kinda uninviting for the project.
        And photoshop is not merely a photo touchup tool Its a graphic design tool too which has vetor integration too a certain extent.

    • Samuel

      I’m going to have to disagree with you, just because the examples you gave aren’t logos, but promotionals. A true branding of a company should be made in illustrator because vector files are so versatile. Those advertisements are very well done, The problem is they’re one and done. If you look in almost every one of those advertisements, you have the company logo (the actual brand) in the bottom left or right hand corner. That logo is what this article is about, not the advertisements.

      • DaveC

        And chances are that logo is vector artwork brought into Photoshop and placed on the promotional.

    • http://www.facebook.com/michaelslocumb Michael Slocumb

      not talking about “design”, talking about logo creation. NEVER use Photoshop in ANY way for logo design.PERIOD

  • Alan

    erosama,

    Any good designer familiar with Illustrator and the needs of a logo, how and where it is used and at what size, how it will be reproduced etc, knows that Photoshop is NOT the best tool to use. Only vector graphic(.ai) need apply. You seem to not want to understand the facts, so keep on using Photoshop for your logo designs. PS is a tremendous tool,but not for logos. Perhaps you’ll understand the problem some day, so zip up your fly now and don’t walk around unzipped.

    • Cesar

      I think what he meants was that Photoshop has things it can do well, and Illustrator has its own things it can do well… If anyone tells me to do something on Photoshop, I can understand it very well, but if someone tells me anything about Illustrator, I get really OCD about lines meeting up at the exact place, and with inexperience it makes things very hard to do…

  • uhh what

    RAPP motor co was a horse, BMW isn’t. Because they purchased a company and still used the circle and letter placement they copied the logo?

  • Benny

    Nice article!

  • Rob

    So true!
    Thanks.

  • http://macherry.org Lena

    Best part

    “proudly declared that I was a master at Photoshop. Know what he said to me? “Teenage Girls use Photoshop to cover up Acne! If you want to impress me, master Illustrator.”” LOL and true story

  • http://twitter.com/Scois0n Scois0n

    Thanks for these tips! I am not in agreement that Photoshop is just a photo editor though… But what to I know ;)

  • trollarc

    trollolol

  • Brad

    “If you have a symbol that represents the company, do you need the company name at all?” This frankly is not correct. Let’s look at the examples that started the article, a check for the company “Nike”. Imagine for a moment that you’d never heard of Nike, never seen a clever ad, never put on a Nike shoe. Does the name Nike say anything that the company does, or does a swooshing check tell you what they sell. The authors kind of branding logic doesn’t work with the majority of real world clients with marketing budgets less than $100 million! No matter how good your icon, it’s only going to get good brand recognition as customers grow familiar with it.

    So lastly at the end of the article should be “Stop comparing branding real world companies with giants like Nike, Apple, and BMW because your clients don’t have that kind of marketing budget”